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             Triumph engine and frame dates

                                  3 ½ and 4 hp engines

Year           engine finished at           frame finished at           

1906                999                                   

1907                2200                                  126700

1908                4212                                  138890

1909                       7822                                  151800

1910                11415                                155374

1911                16852                                190327

1912                22913   commenced with 190328 and continued to 196100    ( *1  )         

1913                29348                                219730

1914                37529 &37533 to 558       262338

1914            then to 37565 to 666                    

1915            41560                                266200

1916            47140                                274600

1917            52980                                280540

1918            59300                                286950

1919            67150                                289850 and 301978 to 306470

1920            74244                                313732

1921            80067                                319672

1922            84673                                324136

 

*1  no 196107 to 211407 are pedal cycle frame numbers

 

 

                          Baby triumph 2 ¼

1913            109                                  194877 to 194883

1914            790                                  256191 to 256878

1915            1885                                256879 to 257970

1916            2487                                257971 to 258534

1917-18       2620                                258535 to 258726

1919            3660                                258727 to 259534

1920            5928                                259535 to 600475

1921            7896                                600476 to 602561

1922            8364                                602562 to 603029


Crankcase number system to end 1923

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

Month

T

R

I

U

M

P

H

C

O

D

E

X

To 1911

T

R

I

U

M

P

H

C

O

D

E

Y

To 1920

T

R

I

U

M

P

H

C

O

X

E

Y

From 1920



CRANKCASE NUMBERS AFTER 1924

Year series

Year

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

GH

1924

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

S

OR

1925

A

 

 

G

P

H

I

R

D

E

S

 

SA

1926

 

 

M

 

 

A

 

 

 

 

E

I

MT

1927

 

 

C

G

A

W

 

 

 

 

I

 

CO

1928

 

 

 

 

W

 

 

 

 

 

R

 

 

1929

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

GT

1930

 

H

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


IF YOU HAVE ANY BETTER IDEA’S WE WILL ALWAYS LISTEN OR OTHER WISE SEND YOUR CRANKCASE NUMBERS AND DATES AND WE WILL FILL IN THE BOXES SOONER OR LATHER.

We prefer to share what we have then keep it to our
self’s like some one else out their Mr PC
!!

THANKS THIS IS FOR REFERENCE ONLY 

ENGINE NUMBER

CRANKCASE
LETTERS

MODEL

MONTH

YEAR

 

101003

DGH

 

?

1924

 

101719

SGH

 

DEC

1924

 

102122

AOR

SD

JAN

1925

 

102513

CMT

 

MAR

1927??

 

108027

ESA

SD

NOV

1926

 

109419

SMT

SD

 

1927

 

200692

SHH

P

DEC

1924

 

202283

AOR

 

JAN

1925

 

205693

TOR

 

?

1925

 

209971

GOR

P

APRIL

1925

 

210151

GOR

P

APRIL

1925

 

212257

GOR

 

APRIL

1925

 

213591

POR

 

MAY

1925

 

216830

POR

 

MAY

1925

 

219573

HOR

 

JUNE

1925

 

219606

HOR

P

JUNE

1925

 

221023

IOR

 

JULY

1925

 

221870

IOR

P

JULY

1925

 

221970

IOR

 

JULY

1925

 

222131

IOR

 

JULY

1925

 

222161

IOR

 

JULY

1925

 

223311

IOR

 

JULY

1925

 

223810

ROR

 

AUG

1925

 

224467

DOR

 

SEP

1925

 

224815

DOR

 

SEP

1925

 

225481

EOR

 

OCT

1925

 

225757

EOR

 

OCT

1925

 

226361

EOR

 

OCT

1925

 

227162

EOR

 

OCT

1925

 

230699

SOR

P

NOV

1925

 

234498

MSA

P

MAR

1926

 

234559

MSA

 

MAR

1926

 

236637

WSA

 

?

1926

 

236690

WSA

 

?

1926

 

238295

ASA

 

JUNE

1926

 

239127

ASA

P

JUNE

1926

 

239376

ASA

 

JUNE

1926

 

245504

ISA

 

DEC

1926

 

246121

ISA

Q

DEC

1926

 

249009

GMT

 

APRIL

1927

 

249081

CMT

P

MAR?

1927

 

250014

SMT

 

?

1927

 

251388

AMT

QA

MAY

1927

 

251685

AMT

 

MAT

1927

 

253257

WMT

N

JUNE

1927

 

254377

OMT

N

 

 

 

255388

IMT

N

NOV

1927

 

501005

IMT

N DELUXE

NOV

1927

 

501614

RMT

N DELUXE

DEC

1927

 

505435

WCO

 

MAY

1925

 

505582

 

N DELUXE

MAY

1928

 

506698

TCO

 

?

1928

 

507229

RCO

N DELUXE

NOV

1928

 

507234

RCO

N DELUXE

NOV

1928

 

507453

HCO

 

FEB

1930

 

300876

WCO

NSD

NOV

1928

 

302249

 

NSD

OCT

1929

 

303466

HGT

NSD

FEB

1930

 

 

If you have any information for the dating please help us to help you and email us your     information plus any other information like Bosch magneto dates, gearboxes etc

      We have a triumph letter staying that after engine number 220001 , gearbox number           120001 and  frame number 920001 all model P,s where fitted with internal expanding front       brakes .

Bosch magneto numbers

This listing has been produced from information supplied by Reg Ingold in Australia.
A few numbers are not that clear, so a stab at the correct number has been made, corrections would be welcome!

Bosch Magnetos

Year Serial
1902 14147
1903 24131
1904 42571
1905 75753
1906 123210
1907 185329
1908 251268
1909 434566
1910 646345
1911 933508
1912 1335331
1913 1567965
1914 1758030
1915 1798093

Sturmey -Archer gearbox numbers to approx half a year.

YEAR

         MODEL

NUMBERS  TO

 

1913

CS

VERY FEW

 

TO

CS

MADE NOS

 

1917

CS

MIX UP

 

1918

CS

20000

 

1919

CS

30000

 

1920

CS

40000

 

1921

CS

50000

 

1922

CS

70000

 

1923

CS

80000

 

1924

CS

84000

 

1925

CS

87000

 

1926

CS

90000

 

1927

CS

94000

 

1928

CS

97000

 

1929

CS

105000

 

1930

CS

106000?

 

1922

LS

4000

 

1923

LS

16000

 

1924

LS

40000

 

1925

LS

60000

 

1926

LS

90000

 

1927

LS

110000

 

1928

LS

150000

 

1929

LS

160000

 

1930

Ls

170000

 

1920

Ts

1000

 

1921

Ts

12000

 

1922

Ts

16000

 

1923

Ts

20000

 

1924

Bs

8000

 

1925

Bs

23000

 

1926

Bs

28000

 

1927

Bs

38000

 

1928

Bs

44000

 

1929

Bs

50000

 

1930

Bs

60000

 

1927

Ma

1000

 

1928

Ma

4000

 

1929

Ma

8000

 

1930

Ma

12000

 

1932

Ma

14000

 

1932

MA

?

 

 
CS Gearbox 3 speed medium weight

Ls Gearbox 3 speed prefixes LW or HW

Types III and IV ¾ speeds improved LS type no data

TS Gearbox 2 speed lightweight

Bs Gearbox 3 speed light weight

FW gearbox 3 speed improved

BW gearbox 3 speed medium weight

MA Gearbox modified LS type special to Raleigh 

Most numbers are correct to half a year.  

Many thanks to John Diamond for the records.